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Snuff Porn Producers Sent To Prison
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http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/2388625/detail.html

http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/entertainment/19915905/detail.html

A California couple who distributed porn videos of simulated rape, brutality and murder of women were found to have violated federal obscenity laws and sentenced to prison.

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Let me preface by saying that I don't personally find snuff films to be a turn-on.

However, one of the films apparently depicts a woman being murdered during a home invasion. How is that different because it's in a pornographic film than if it were depicted in a mainstream Hollywood film?

I think sexualizing murder is psychologically troubling, but I would say the same thing about a filmmaker who sexualized murder in an R-rated film as I would an X-rated film.

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nomnnice wrote:
Let me preface by saying that I don't personally find snuff films to be a turn-on.

However, one of the films apparently depicts a woman being murdered during a home invasion. How is that different because it's in a pornographic film than if it were depicted in a mainstream Hollywood film?

I think sexualizing murder is psychologically troubling, but I would say the same thing about a filmmaker who sexualized murder in an R-rated film as I would an X-rated film.


This.

There is a distinct difference between what comes out of Hollywood and what comes out of a snuff maker's basement. But the issue still is pretty fuzzy.

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I'm guessing that's why the Feds went to the bother of filing charges and conducting a federal court trial over it. If it follows the typical porn pattern, the film would be about 10% plot and 90% action. I was rather surprised to see that the Federal obscenity statutes are still in force and still used. If the films were expressly designed to glorify violence, murder and forcible rape of women for the purpose of titillating the audience, I would say it fits the terms of the statute nicely, and I'm glad we still have it available to use.

"Obscenity Test

Federal prosecutors used the U.S. Supreme Court's Miller v. California ruling from 1973 to argue their case against Extreme Associates in Pittsburgh.
The ruling says that materials are obscene if they pass a three-part test:
The average person, applying contemporary community standards (not national standards, as some prior tests required), must find that the work, taken as a whole, appeals to the prurient interest.
The work depicts or describes, in a patently offensive way, sexual conduct or excretory functions specifically defined by applicable state law.
The work, taken as a whole, lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value."

I like suspense films, and I've seen some that wove sexuality and violence into their stories in skillful and sometimes disturbing ways- "Blue Velvet" and "Cape Fear" come to mind. But when it comes to something like this, I think it crosses the line into something dangerous. Psychos and violent sexual predators are notorious for using certain kinds of porn to get wound up and inspire themselves to do the real thing.

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thrice wrote:
Psychos and violent sexual predators are notorious for using certain kinds of porn to get wound up and inspire themselves to do the real thing.


Um, hey...news flash. Psychos are...um...PSYCHOS. There is no rationality to be found. I'm sure there are psychos and sexual predators out there who are just as "inspired" by films like Cape Fear as they are snuff pornography.

And don't even get me started on video games like Grand Theft Auto, where people can literally practice killing and raping people.

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"And don't even get me started on video games like Grand Theft Auto, where people can literally practice killing and raping people."

And this is your argument for just throwing up our hands and doing nothing about it?

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And this is your argument for just throwing up our hands and doing nothing about it?


What is putting snuff producers - who likely had a very limited audience - in jail doing to help the problem?

You can't claim you're fighting for decency unless you go after indecent things across the board instead of just what you don't care for.

Americans are afraid of sex. We've been trained to think of anything sexual as bad. But, what makes snuff films any more indecent than a violent mainstream film or videogame other than the fact that it depicts actual sex? Sex seems to be the only difference.

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