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http://www.pastormelissascott.com/

http://www.universitycathedral.com/songs/song2/play.html

This is a strange phenomenon. I ran across this lady on late night television, preaching up a storm.

She's extremely talented. She can roll on for hours, apparently without a script or teleprompter, striding around on the stage like Mick Jagger in his prime. She's a fairly good singer, too, and closes every sermon with a performance backed up by a full band.

She's pretty easy on the eyes, with a slim frame, pretty face, and thick wavy hair down to her waist.

She appears to be quite intelligent, filling whiteboards with hand written translations of original Greek text to analyse the meanings of biblical passages in their first writing. She's extremely articulate and a great orator.

I would expect that she should blow the doors off any televangelist on the air today.

Then I Googled her. Wow.

If what I read in numerous posts is true, she's one wild chica. Internet rumors claim that Melissa Scott was formerly a porn star performing under the name of Barbie Bridges, and is a former Miss Nude Can-Am contestant. She apparently married the long time televangelist Gene Scott in 2000 when he was 70 and she was 32. When he died in 2005, she inherited the whole shebang.

To hell with the televangelist story. This one's a movie waiting to be made.

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Hello "thrice",

Yes I, too, have been captivated by Pastor Melissa Scott on a handful of occasions. And yet ... I wondered if there weren't something just a little bit off, something con artist-y, going on there. I mean, when she's really getting into it, she slides into the "Jaysus saves!" mode and adopts a slight southern US accent that she doesn't otherwise have, but I figured I'd cut her some slack, that maybe she was born in the South and I know that long-overcome accents come back to people when they're extremely emotional. But another time I was watching and she was really into the Greek language thing and she was suddenly speaking with ... you guessed it, a slight Greek accent. Well, she does look Greek, so that's plausible. But her knowledge of all ancient Mediterranean languages, cultures, beliefs and sacred writings struck me as so impressive that I found it surprising that a scholar of that caliber would be evangelizing on some cheesy cable channel rather than teaching at an esteemed university. So my curiosity about her -- and especially about her academic credentials -- finally propelled me to google her.

Even if I were a Bible-thumping Christian, I don't think I would mind all that much that she had been a porn star, or even that, while young and beautiful, she married an elderly, terminal televangelist. I would mind if she turned out to be a con artist. I don't know if she is or not. I'm still curious as to precisely where she acquired all her scholarly knowledge of ancient languages and texts.

Maybe someone else will post the answer.

Best,
dumbstruck

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Post addendum to Pator Melissa Scott 


Hi all,

I just wanted to mention that, since having posted, I became aware that she has the power to erase from cyberspace all negative opinions and commentary about her (possibly including this post). For example: her Wikipedia entry has been deleted.

All.

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Well, I have a number of problems with Melissa Scott ... firstly, she has absolutely no formal training or credentials in theology or linguistics (both fields in which she professes to be an expert). Her late husband (Dr. Gene Scott) was somewhat of a cook too, but at least he had a Ph.D ... even though it was in the 'Philosophy of Education'. She has no more than a high school diploma ... while that doesn't necessarily mean she can't know anything it certainly is doubtful she could master ancient Greek and Aramiac through self study. Myself, I am a Doctor of History with a professorship at the University Copenhagen (Denmark), and I can tell you that while her translations are somewhat accurate they also have many blatantly amatuerish errors and reek of naivete.

I have never seen Pastor Melissa Scott write/speak in Greek or Latin on the fly ... the texts are already written on the whiteboard before the 'lecture' starts, and she merely 'translates' them (no doubt prerehearsed). In the linguistic community this is extraordinarily unusual!!! I cannot stress this enough -- people who really are scholars and fluent/proficient in ancient languages are constantly writing and translating things as they pop into their head. They are not confined to what was written on the board before they started lecturing -- I have never seen Melissa Scott do this once.

This should be a red flag to anyone with even a shred of critical thinking skills.

This is beyond the fact she jumps from one non sequiter to the next, using circular logic, and unsound syllogisms (in an epistemological sense). She starts off saying exactly what question she going to address/answer, and then she never answers it! She just rambles on and on trying to impress and dupe her audience into seeing past the obvious flaws in her message -- she is a master B.S.'er. As Plato would have said " [this type of] rhetoric is little more than art of convincing the ignorant," because if you had any expert knowledge of what she is talking about you'd realize how fallacious her thought process is.

Then there's also her past stint as a porn actress, and well documented penchant for opportunism and unethical behavior. I find it extremely odd she would have anything in common with Dr. Scott ... since he was about 50 years her senior when they married. In fact, Dr. Scott divorced his wife just so he could marry Melissa Scott, and the only reason she even met him is because he used to pay her to come to his lectures (Dr. Scott used to pay models and 'pretty girls' to sit in the front row of his audiences to attract more parishoners).

She just reaks of hypocracy and ignorance to me ... I can't stand people whom feign expertise, but do little else than fill unwitting students with ignorant principles.


*I have a Post Doc. in History with a specialization in 20th Century Scandinavian History (from Brown University - 2003). As all other professional historians at the doctorate level I am required to be proficient in several modern and ancient languages -- I can speak 6 modern languages, and have officially studied Latin and Greek at the university level.

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I hope I can lend some insight into this thing about Melissa. I used to, years ago, listen to Gene Scott on shortwave radio. He was transmitting from towers in Texas, and I could pick up the signal very well in Florida. He knew that it was getting into florida, and one day I felt like he was talking to me directly. He said, "If you are listening to this in Florida, come to LA, to my church". I was planning to go to California to visit relitives, so I thought, Why not. I printed a map from their web site and drove in a rented car from San Diego on the Sunday morning, after I got to California. I was shocked to see Dr. Scott bring his new wife out on stage. I figured she must have been at least 30 years younger than him. I did not know anything about her, up to them. I also was a little suprised about the suit he was wearing that looked like he had tailor made in Italy for about three thousand dollars. She was dressed very nicely, in what looked like very expensive designer clothes. I was devistated afterwards and told my family that I was shocked.
I had the same sort of experience lately, as the previouse posters. Channel surfing late at night and seeing her lecturing. My opinion, based on my experience of a couple years of listening on the radio and watching him on the internet and going myself to his church, is that we are watching recorded lectures that she did while Dr. Gene Scott was actually still alive. She is only doing exactly what he did, and I sat through myself, with the cameras going, and laying out a big, long diatribe to, in the end make a very small point about the meaning of the use of a single word in the Bible. Just think about Falwell's tapes being run, now, as if he was still alive.

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Sorry, but after I posted my comment, I went to some other forums and read what people were writing to defend Melissa, and I am so disgusted that I feel compelled to make another comment. I think that I wanted to be a little compassionate when I wrote all that. But, the more I read from people, the more I feel that my commpassion has been driven out of me. All I am doing, right now, is to add a few details to my little story that I left out, thinking I might be a little bit too mean. I know now that I was wrong. People are caught up in this deception and feel like they are being blessed by God to watch this. And we are all going to pay for our criticism in hell, or something.
I recieved my invetation from Dr. Scott to come to his church, over shortwave radio. I felt guilty to listen on the internet, after buying a computer, because I did not want to use up his band width, when I was not donating to his minestry. I felt comfortable listening on the radio because the waves were already out there, in the air, and had already been paid for. But, I did go on his website to apply for admission to his service on line. When I showed up at the church, with my girlfriend, I was told that our names were not on the list to be allowed in. I told the security man that I had made a reservation on line. He said that they had problems with their server and that we should come back next week. I told him that we had just come all the way from Florida to see Dr. Scott. They left us in the security booth untill he could get permission to let us in. Several men came and questioned us until they decided we were telling the truth and we were safe to let in. We had to be escorted in and have someone watching us. We were told that by the time we were cleared, that we ended up being late. We had to waite in the lobby untill there was some sort of break in the activity, inside, before we could be seated. Dr Scott did not like to be disturbed by people moving around whille he was talking. I could hear through the door that Dr. Scott had started talking and I thought that he was giving an opening prayer. I told my girlfriend that they were praying and that she should bow her head. I looked at our escort and he looked imbarassed. I did not know why he was acting that way, but it gradualy dawned on me. What sounded like a prayer to God, was going on and was extoling the virtues and greatness and wonderful works of ...... someone. then I realized that he opened his service by talking about himself. I was horrified. But I calmed down and did not say anything, but decided to pay attention and see if there was any sort of prayer, at all, in the sevice. The answer was no. Think what you want, but that experience changed the way that I thought about him, from then, on.

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I feel like I should check back periodicly, to see if my comments have been removed. I went back, again, and read more posts on other forums and am convinced that this woman has a power of intimidation to have things removed. I realize that there are things that have beem mentioned on posts, but can not be now found, including how the church was actually run, on the ground level. I hope my story will shed some light on it. I know that I have had a lot of people who I have told this story to, tell me that they did not think that this is a church, at all.

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Your posts won't be removed here, jmdewey. We're all about free speech. Wink

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The more I look at this whole thing , the more it looks like a cult. I was looking at usegroup alt.fan.gene-scott. I was directed to this by someone (studio) at a forum. I went there and this guy has hundeds of posts, arguing with the fans. Wow. This reminds me of another one of my stories. Before I moved to Florida, I was living for a while in northern California. Before the Jim Jones cult moved to south america, and after they were in Oakland, they were in a place in Mindacino County, called Pine Valley. A friend of mine was living on property that his parents had bought in this area. I found that there were people living in the area, from Oakland, still, years after the tragedy in Guiana. I found out that there were enforcers that were loyal to Jones, and you did not dare say anything bad about jones, or you could end up with something bad happening to you. This could seem like paranoia, but I feel a lot better not living there.
I am just trying to say that the more I read what people say in defence of the Scott cult, the more uneasy I feel about it. I am not on a big campain here. If you want that, read posts by this guy, studio, who worked as a lighting tech for the scotts. Actually, yesterday I went to google Melissa to see if I could look up her lectures, because I fell asleep before the end of her lecture and I wanted to see how the show ended. Wow. Was I in for a serious attitude adjustment!

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I tried to watch Melissa, as an expiriment, last night, to see if I could still watch her, after what I have found out about her in the last two days. Kind of like what I was saying in my story, about when I went to the "Universaty Cathedral". It started with her standing still, straight up, for about two seconds. It makes it seem like the tape starts right in the middle of a srvice, so you miss how the whole thing begins and you never notice the fact that there is no praying. The white boards were already prepped. She emediatly started walking across the stage and started some rant defending her style of presintaion, then ripping on how other preachers do not have the right emphasis in their prsentations and are missing the most fundamental points. Then she started saying that you have to base your faith on knowledge, and not feelings. I can see her point, but the way she was trying to explain it sent me to the mute button on my remote. I tryed to watch her hands moving around on her flailing arms and her body bending up and down. That was all I could take. Had to turn the TV off and turn on the Radio. I listened to something not so self righteous, on Coast to Coast AM. I thought about what some people wrote about her wrapping herself in ortodoxy. I can see that. She makes it hard for people to attack her on her theology because there is no glareing heresy to point at.
I think the best way to evaluate her would be to look at who she is associating herself with. If you cared to look into it, very interesting. She is going to events, sponsered by religeous organizations, where she is being promoted as a prophet, or so it appears.

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I actually love the idea that she does not have the "credentials" on her resume. Maybe she allows God to speak through her through the Holy Spirit. Imagine that! Someone without credentials, or a doctorate, or a masters, etc. able to teach in an unbelievable way.

I hate it when people are jealous of success and then feel compelled to offer up reasons to not listen.

I don't care if she was a porn star or a queen - if she can teach the Word - in a unique way - and people are blessed by it - then let it be. As for me - I will listen and watch until she proves herself a false teacher - but nothing other than that will enter into my decision.

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. . . if she can teach the Word . . .


What's "the Word"? Gullible?

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She just reaks of hypocracy and ignorance to me ... I can't stand people whom feign expertise, but do little else than fill unwitting students with ignorant principles.


*I have a Post Doc. in History with a specialization in 20th Century Scandinavian History (from Brown University - 2003). As all other professional historians at the doctorate level I am required to be proficient in several modern and ancient languages -- I can speak 6 modern languages, and have officially studied Latin and Greek at the university level.



Is English one of the languages you're not proficient in? How is language proficiency defined and demonstrated at the professional historian doctorate level?

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She just reaks of hypocracy and ignorance to me ... I can't stand people whom feign expertise, but do little else than fill unwitting students with ignorant principles.


*I have a Post Doc. in History with a specialization in 20th Century Scandinavian History (from Brown University - 2003). As all other professional historians at the doctorate level I am required to be proficient in several modern and ancient languages -- I can speak 6 modern languages, and have officially studied Latin and Greek at the university level.



Is English one of the languages you're not proficient in? How is language proficiency defined and demonstrated at the professional historian doctorate level?


I don't think spelling errors in a hastily written forum post are necessarily indicative of a lack of intelligence. Do you?

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Odin: Is English one of the languages you're not proficient in? How is language proficiency defined and demonstrated at the professional historian doctorate level?



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I don't think spelling errors in a hastily written forum post are necessarily indicative of a lack of intelligence. Do you?


Amazing nonsequitor. Where have I called the author's intelligence into question? I believe I already mentioned in this forum my great respect for a guy I dubbed The Professor, who was kind and patient enough to introduce me to Natural Law philosophy and Social Contract Theory on an abortion message board. He couldn't spell worth a damn but was one of the most intelligent people I've come across online.

And you can be damn sure that when he was teaching me, I couched my arguments as respectfully as possible. Our conversation lasted over a week and was one of the most entertaining and enlightening experiences I've had online. When a spectator made the mistake of mischaracterizing our conversation as a "debate," honesty and humility compelled me to point out that kindergarten dropouts don't debate Rhodes Scholars.


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No non sequitor.

I thought you were using what he wrote in his post, which contained spelling errors, to question his ability to earn a doctorate. If not, my bad.

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I did a little more research today on Pastor Scott, and the Wescott Faith Center. Woo hoo.

Sounds like she's joining forces with the Randy and Paula White group in Florida, and Paul Crouch's TBN network. The Whites are pulling in about $35-40 million per year in donations, and auditors say the Crouch group is worth $780 million.

And I found a link to Melissa Scott as Barbi Bridges. The Bridges photos, viewed by my own sinning eyes, do definitely appear to be Melissa Scott wearing nothing but a smile. I would say she has indeed been amply blessed.

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Wow! That's a story and a half, bro.

I'm sorry these people compelled you to drive so far for such a farce of a show.

Then again, there's a lesson to be learned: If it pays to be heard on the radio, wants you to pay to listen, needs you to pay attention/pay ca$h to be heard, and features a porn star as a pastor, then we will be correct in guessing what it really is: A bogus piece of crap dressed up to take money, give nothing, and leave us feeling like Jesus should bitch-slap this particular brand of sinner.

Or something like that.

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Clearly there are no posters here that are even slightly knowledgeable of The Bible (aka "The Word"), but boy oh boy there sure are a lot of fingers pointing at others, particularly Dr. Melissa Scott! The Bible emphatically says that WE WILL ALL have to stand before THE LORD on the day of judegment and will have to "account for every idle word". Pastors are part of that "all" and The Bible says they have even more responsibility/accountability for their teaching. God is in control and will deal justly with all, including Pastor Scott. I am a Christian (with lots of faults, thanks to this flesh and being in this world) nonetheless and while not a theologian, I haven't caught anything of Pastor Scott's teaching that would cause me to take pause. Let me offer just a few /couple more biblical truths for those who don't know...

1. The message of the cross is folly (foolishness!) to those that are perishing (not saved / have not received the free gift of salvation) but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. 1Cor 1:18
2. The world did not like Jesus or the things of God and still doesn't. Truth be told, satan is the dark ruler of this earth and I think most folks know the basic gist of that story--he started out as a beautiful angel in heaven, but was cast down when he thought he could be like God. (That'll never happen my friend!) So consequently, you unbelievers want to point fingers, say bad things about people you don't know, write things about things you read on the internet which may or may not even be true. Pastors are easy marks. My point is that "all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" (Romans 3:23) and our righteousness is like a filthy rag compared to Jesus' righteousness--HE alone is the standard and as long as we are in these earthly bodies, we can only do but so much. Even then it is not what we alone do, but what The Holy Spirit enables us to do. Sin is sin, evil is evil. There are NO different shades or grades of sin. Jesus said that if we wish harm on our brother that we have as much as committed murder; if we look at someone with lust in our heart, we have already committed adultery. What's so AMAZING about the whole salvation thing is that God can actually look at me and other born-again Christians like we've never sinned! Jesus did that for me, and YOU. His blood was shed for all the sin of the world for all time. It is a done deal!!! But we need to confess our sins, realize that apart from God we are Nothing and can do nothing, and believe that Jesus died for us and conquered death so that ALL men (and women) might be saved! There is no other name under heaven by which all men must be saved! The work has been done and Jesus loves us all so much that He came here for one reason only---to die! He was born to die--what an awesome profession of love. Why wouldn't someone want that? Why would someone gamble with their eternity (!) by not accepting such a beautiful and wondrous gift.

3. Money is one of the most talked about subjects in The Bible. God invented it so I always find it interesting that the world gets so hung up on it. THe Bible does NOT declare that money is the root of all evil, BUT that "the LOVE of money is the root of all evil for which some have strayed from the faith in their greediness, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows." 1Tim 6:10. Again, all Pastors will have to be accountable, as well as everyone else. The church need money to do the work of the kingdom of God: preaching, teaching, feeding and clothing the needy and on and on. Christians are all commissioned (CO-MISSION) to spread The Gospel. Do you actually think that NON-Christian organizations and businesses don't charge Christian organizations for shipping or travel or air-wave time? Christians have bills to pay, too!

That's probably all many of you can handle for now. If you've read this far--great, because The Word of God does not return void. Hopefully, I've planted ONE seed in fertile soil! God is So GOOD!! Very Happy

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*cue organ music*

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Oh dear. Flashing back to Baptist Bible Camp...

Crying or Very sad

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Exodus 22:18 .
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Clearly there are no posters here that are even slightly knowledgeable of The Bible (aka "The Word"), but boy oh boy there sure are a lot of fingers pointing at others, particularly Dr. Melissa Scott!


How addled do you gotta be to believe the bible is "the word" of some deity? You bible-thumping morons still murdering witches ( Exodus 22:18], as commanded by your fictional psychotic sadistic mass-murdering misanthropic alien?


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Or banjo music. She reminds me of the inbred kid in the movie Deliverance.

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She is the BEST preacher I have ever heard. May God bless her for bringing the Scriptures to light. I wish there was a preacher like that in New York City.

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I am not surprised at the ignorance shown in most of the comments. You obviously are ignorant of the fact that Jesus changes people's hearts, minds, and actions. Just like Mary Magdalene, who was a prostitute had her heart, actions, and mind, Pastor Scott indeed reveals, from what I can tell (no pre-judgement like some - looking for slime to justify their own slime) she has a real relationship with God and wants others to know the truth. I have found that her doctrine is quite sound and that she does hear from the Holy Spirit of God.
As to wherther she has the degrees as one illustrious blogger aludes, she does have fantastic insight into the character of God and truths revealed in the Word of God (Bible). The scribes and pharasees in Jesus day were extremely educated. They understood Judaism well but lacked understanding of God (the one that they were to represent). Jesus said, "you make people twice as fit for Hell as yourself."

To understand any book properly and what the author meant, one must know the author. Any old book has no author around and everyone tht reads it will have different interpretations of it. The Bible is different! The Author and Inspirer of the writings is still around. You have to know the Author before you can know the Book. Not only that, Jesus sent the Holy Spirit of God to indwell the believer and to "teach all things." If you don't know the author or are open to know the truth so that God can teach you, you might as read a book by Shakesphere - because you will understand Shakesphere's story and can not understand God's Word.
Shocked

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Shocked Embarassed I'm sorry but I'm very embarassed that Christians are behaving like this.
The message is what's important........not the messenger. Do I need to remind you that Mary Magdeline was a woman of tainted reputation and that Jesus loved her very much.
I am not the judge..........God is........and it is not my place to tell Him who He can use to reach people. If what you say is true then I pray God forgive her for what she does........but if she is real.............I pray God forgive you all for what you are doing. If we spent as much time trying to reach lost souls as we do bagging on TV evangelists then we might have a better world to live in.

As for those of you who choose to go to the site of Barbie to look at the (porn) photos, I question your walk, and I'll pray for you too. When we recieve Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior then we are washed clean. Is she any differant than the rest of us? Let anyone who has never sinned cast the first stone. I know that I'm a sinner who has been saved by grace and I praise God that His love and grace abounds in the world today. I refuse to be a tool of satan by gossiping. Especially if it is by somebody God has chosen. God chooses His vessels. Not us.

We are to shod our feet with the gospel of peace. We are to carry truth to a hurting world to save the souls of those being held in bondage by satan. Why are the Christians today taking their eyes off of Jesus to look at ex porn stars or to gossip about somebody who claims to be a sister in Christ Jesus. The chaff will be burned in the end but the chaff grows with the wheat. I am not the one to say who is chaff and who is wheat. I refuse to participate in this ........ but .....as a sister in Christ Jesus.............I'm here to warn you that what I have read here is not good.

Until the Christians learn to stand together we will never do the work that God so desires us to do as a church. A divided house can not stand and this sort of thing devides the church which is exactly what satan wants.


God bless you all
YSIC

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Don't you find it troubling that Melissa Scott and her allies, the Crouches of TBN ministries, are receiving hundreds of millions of dollars in donations with no apparent accountability? Why won't they join organizations that ensure financial disclosure for church organizations? People who run honest ministries have nothing to fear from the light of day and opening their books.

It's already well known that a number of televangelists are living the lives of royalty on multimillion dollar estates with private jets. Melissa Scott and her friends are extremely secretive about their lives. Why?

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LET THOSE WHO ARE WITHOUT SIN CAST THE FIRST STONE!

NOT A ONE COULD.

THERE WAS ONLY ONE MAN WHO WAS WITHOUT SIN AND HE DIED ON A CROSS FOR OUR SINS.

REMEMBER WHAT GOD DID TO THE PEOPLE WHO CONDEMNED MOSES'S WIFE FOR BEING ETHIOPIAN. IF GOD CHOSE HER TO CARRY HIS WORD WE NEED TO RESPECT THAT.

WHY DON'T WE ALL AGREE IN PRAYER THAT NO MATTER WHAT ....... SOULS WILL BE REACHED FOR THE GLORY OF GOD THROUGH HER TEACHING.

ALSO MAY WE REJOICE THAT HE CAN TAKE SOMEONE LIKE HER AND ANOINT HER TO PREACH WITH THE POWER OF THE HOLY SPIRIT. HER BACKGROUND MAKES THE TESTIMONY SHE HAS MUCH STRONGER AND GIVES ME HOPE.

I'm a single mom and have never been a hooker or porn star but I can tell you this.......I know Jesus and praise Him and His Father for everybody He chooses to use. We are in the end times and it is going to take all of us to do His work.

If you are that concerned then I suggest you study the Word of God and pray to the Father in the name of Jesus that His Spirit minister the truth to you in this situation. Because His Spirit is the Spirit of love. Not condemnation and hate. That is of satan.

May the grace and love of God bless you all.

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I can't speak for anyone else, Tolerose. I don't consider simple, honest questions to be condemnation and hate.

What do I ask? The same thing that the IRS asks every business and adult in this country every April 15th. How much money did you take in last year? How much did you spend? And where did you put what was left?

I don't think the Internal Revenue Service hates or condemns me. As someone who's a citizen of this country, I have an obligation to pay taxes on what I earn. I would say that someone who takes in donations every day for more money than I earn in a year shouldn't be too troubled to answer the same questions that you and I do.

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Keep it up thrice, and you'll just get lots of moral and religious dogma thrown at you. It's easier than actually answering the questions you've posed.

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The only way you will get the answers about financial accountability is to talk to Melissa Scott herself or her financial advisors. I don't know. All I know is what I'm held accountable for myself.I can't speak for anybody but myself on that matter. You know, I don't think about such things because I know that in the end we all stand before God and will be judged for what we do here. My concern is that as Christians we should stand firm in the Word of God together.

I used to worry about such things but don't anymore. It's all in God's hands and I know that He will take care of it. We all pay for decisions we make in the end whether it be good or bad. I know that I'm more concerned about the salvation of the souls of the people I love and meet. I'm also more concerned about my soul and what God will say to me about what I have done and am doing now.

If I had the answers to your question then I would answer it. I don't however and really am not concerned about what anybody else makes finacially or what they do with it. I'm too busy trying to make a living for myself and by the time the day is over I'm usually too tired to care.

The only thing that I can suggest is that you pray about it and in time the answer that God wants you to have will come to you. I pray that God gives you all peace with this topic.

God bless and take care.

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How convenient. You're being told that God will take care of it all for you in the end, so you don't need to worry about it. Meanwhile, the same people who are telling you this are raping people's pocketbooks, and living the high life "in this world".

Televangelists who live the billionaire's life now while telling you to put all your faith in God and the next life? They fall about one step lower than the people who send the Nigeria email bank scams. I just really hope, for the "flock's" sake, that there is such a good afterlife. I just picture everyone getting to the door, and St. Peter slapping his forehead and saying "Another one? Sheesh, that lady was good. And rich."

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Message to Thrice. Please understand that it is really difficult to find a great preacher who can explain the Bible the way it was written. Pastor Melissa Scott tries her best to explain it from the original manuscripts and I give her a lot of credit for doing such a good job. She has taken her talents (she speaks so many languages fluently) and is using them to bring glory to God. Please don't say negative things about her.

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rachelslight wrote:
Message to Thrice. Please understand that it is really difficult to find a great preacher who can explain the Bible the way it was written. Pastor Melissa Scott tries her best to explain it from the original manuscripts and I give her a lot of credit for doing such a good job. She has taken her talents (she speaks so many languages fluently) and is using them to bring glory to God. Please don't say negative things about her.


I'd like to give somewhat of a ++ to this post.

From what I've seen of Melissa Scott, I've been fairly impressed. Translating Hebrew isn't exactly a parlor trick. Having been to many "churches" in Tulsa, I'm quite familiar with pastors who see their flock as sheep in more ways than one. Melissa Scott could, theoretically be such a pastor. But usually such pastors don't get in to translating Hebrew. They prefer to just keep things simple, exactly the way they want their flock to be.

With all that said, I believe it is still a good idea to keep a weary eye out on pastors. They're not always as good as they want you to believe. Sure, God will judge them in the end. But that doesn't mean you have to fatten their wallets in the mean time.

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The following is my thoughts only and don't require any validation or approval. On this business of giving money to the church or to preachers. I see on Dr. Melissa Scott's web site in the Learning Center area there is a statement about Giving, The Basics, The Foundation. It says, ". . . Let him who is taught in the word pay the one who taught him . . . Giving should be to the teacher, and should be in response to the value of teaching received." To me this leaves the decision in the hands of the giver to decide how much to give.

I believe in supporting the teaching of the word of God with a tithe BUT I think no church or pastor should be saying how much to give in a specific dollar amount. The Bible does talk about giving a tenth of our earnings or ten cents of ever dollar earned. When the requirement was given to the people to give a 10th of their earnings the government took care of the people. The people didn't pay for their health care and didn't pay taxes like we do today. So my decision for me on giving a 10th of my earnings is I will first subtract the amount of federal, state tax and the amount I pay for my health plan from my gross earnings. The dollar amount left is the amount I will pay a 10th of as my tithe support to a ministry. However, if an emergency has come up during the month requiring money, if I've gotten sick and need medication or some other emergency has come up I will subtracted that from the 10th I pay.

There are very few preachers or ministers who are preaching and teaching scripture from the word of God. Pastor Melissa Scott is one and Pastor Arnold Murray in Gravette, Arkansas is another. I think if a person is lucky enough to hear a sharing of the true word of God from the scriptures it deserves a monetary reward to the one or church who preached the word. I believe it's the private business of a person doing the giving as to how much is given and no pastor or church has the right to insist that a person give a certain amount to be welcome to attend a church. I believe God approves of my attitude on this because it's fair and makes sense. Broadcast time, satellite time, the cost of literature to send to people to help them understand God's word does costs money. So if a person receives help from a ministry, church or pastor then it's only fair to give something in monetary support in return. I also think a pastor who is teaching the word of God has the right to ask for monetary support.


I don't see anything in the scriptures that requires me to attend or be a member of a church or religious organization to be accepted into Heaven when I die. I don't mean this to sound like people shouldn't think or feel they should go to church. I think attending church, or being a member of a religious organization is and should be a personal choice. To me a belief in the birth, resurrection and death of Christ is a requirement along with a sincere effort to live a life pleasing to God and asking forgiveness when I commit a transgression against God's laws. Those laws start with the Ten Commandments. We are flawed human beings, we will never be perfect in this life. All we can do is ask God's forgiveness when we commit a transgression and then continue to live the best life we can each day with the help of God. Very Happy

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I forgot to mention, and their may be more, Pastor Joel Osteen our of Houston, Texas is another one who preaches the word of God from the scriptures.

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Which god? Which scriptures? And if you'd been born back when your authority figures were worshipping multiple gods, isn't it probable you'd have worshipped those gods too? Any chance you'll learn to think for yourself and rationally question your assumptions some day before you die?

I'm constantly amazed at some people's inability or unwillingness to critically analyze information. Anyone who blathers on about "the true word of God" obviously hasn't learned to separate wheat from chaff.


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To understand any book properly and what the author meant, one must know the author.


Probably one of the stupidest things ever written on a message board. Turn in your textbooks, students. If you don't know their authors, you can't understand their content "properly."

Show me someone who professes to have an understanding of a supernatural deity and I'll show you a weak-minded moron spouting idiocies.


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OdinofAzgard, I said, " The following is my thoughts only and don't require any validation or approval." You don't know me or what I'm capable of doing, attacking my intelligence is just mean spirited. You follow what works for you and I'll follow what works for me.

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OdinofAzgard, I said, " The following is my thoughts only and don't require any validation or approval." You don't know me or what I'm capable of doing, attacking my intelligence is just mean spirited. You follow what works for you and I'll follow what works for me.


I was neither validating nor approving, your requirements not being of particular interest to me. What does interest me is your unwarranted belief in the supernatural and your apparent belief that your god has chosen to communicate to you and your fellow morons through words in a book.

Heather Locklear loves me. It says so right here in this post so you know it's true. Given your gullibility, I expect you to believe in Heather's love for me. If you think the author(s) of your "word" are more truthful than me, what makes you think so?

Are you capable of honestly assessing sources of information to determine which are more likely to be credible? Do you believe the Encyclopedia Britannica and the National Enquirer to be equally credible? If not, why not?

If lying to yourself about the existence of a deity that supposedly LOVES you "works" for you, I consider it a abdication of your responsiblity to be rational, but I wouldn't mind much if you kept your loony belief to yourself and it didn't cause you to hurt others. But posting your superstitious nonsense on a message board and calling it "truth" undermines and degrades the concept of truth, offenses that those of us who believe in the importance of truth don't like to see even when it's as cartoonish as your religious beliefs.

Unfortunately, your public professions of your idiot beliefs also give support to others who also believe in supernatural deities, people who hurt others because they believe their actions are sanctioned by their deity. Once you irrationally believe in things without credible evidence, you open the door to all manner of other unwarranted beliefs.

There was an story in the paper today about the Christian parents who let their diabetic daughter die because they believed prayer would save her. According to the medical examiner, they told him not to bother with an autopsy because "she'd be alive by then." It's been awhile, so it looks like you won't get the chance to tell that little girl how your unwarranted beliefs work for you. Her parents' didn't work for her.

Too bad there wasn't someone there "mean spirited" enough to take her to the hospital. She'd probably still be alive. Any other little girls you want to help kill?


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OdinofAzgard, I see you made a second reply. You said my requirements didn't interest you. Something was of interested to you since you made two comments and the last one being quite lengthy. What I said are not my "requirements" they are my thoughts, notice the frequent use of "I." I don't understand why you think you can speak about what other people might read and find of interest, I think people are capable of reading and deciding for themselves and they don't need you doing it for them.

As I said before, you don't know me and what you said in your second post doesn't apply to me even tho you make a lot of assumptions you think do apply. I think you're looking for someone to fight with but I'm not going to be that person. You're the one who is trying to force your thoughts on others, I see other posts on this site from you. So again, you follow what works for you and I'll follow what works for me. And this is the last comment I'm going to make to you, for me to continue this would serve no constructive purpose. Race, religion and politics can be discussed but not argued about in the manner you want to do.

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I have sat at my computer and read 90% of the "thoughts" in the forum. What makes me stop and wonder is...if you are so quick to judge her negativly, then why don't you try to do a better job of it! I don't think anyone person could possibly understand the true translations of the Bible. I am a true believer in God, but I have 3 Bibles; one is a New Oxford, one is a King James, and the last one is a youth Bible, sometimes in my readings I have to cross referance each to understand one meaning or passage.

The other things is of your up that late at night and not sleeping "peacefully" there there is something troubling your mind or soul and maybe just maybe divine intervention made you tune her in. Me on the other hand my husband is curently deployed that is why I am up so late.

So she is not perfect, who is? I am not and if you think that you are...WRONG. But if one person sitting up late at night flipping channels come to know God and his word through her or any other televangelist for that matter, Enlightenment is sure to follow Very Happy

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Hello, I was looking for Pastor Melissa Scott's website via a google search and came across this forum. I read only a hand full of the comments on here and wanted to leave a comment.

I am a Child of God although I have not been brought up in any church nor was I saved via reading a thingy on a hand out. My walk with Jesus has been a long hard walk alone. The spirit has shown me many great things and I have learned alot of valueable lessons. I have made many mistakes in my life and had to learn from each and every one of them.

Although I have not been brought up in a church, I have attended many services in different churches. I have been around many religious people of different beliefs and back grounds. Because of my background I have had a hard time trusting the persons standing on the pulpit preaching. All I learned came directly from the Bible and the leading of the Holy Spirit, so I tend to anaylze anyone that is speaking or claiming to speak God's Word.

With that said, I want to say that when I stumbled upon Melissa Scott one night I was amazed by her teaching. After a few times watching the program I decided to start taping it to send to my sister who is in need of this teaching but will not hear it from me. {she is my older sister}.

I honestly think if people would listen to God's Word they would soon see that Melissa Scott is very blessed! I found it funny that some people pointed out Melissa's past here. Come on now, who do you think Salvation is for?? The Sinless??

Now I don't know anything about Melissa other then the few times I have caught her teaching and what I have read here so far. I can say that if by chance what has been said about her past is true, it should cause a stir in the hearts of all that read it as it shows how God Works in the lives of His Children! I know I for one, will hold this women up in prayer always! She has come a long way and I can bet she traveled a very hard road to get to were she is today. Thank God for His Children that hear and obey his Word and take up their cross to follow Him!

May God touch you as He has Melissa!

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This is for Tina, you tell them, she isn't perfect, but who is? But most of all WE ALL are forgiven. Wink [/b]

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*soft laughter* I see we have drawn up two camps on this one once again.

Pastor Scott may be a brilliant, dynamic speaker and believer. Great. HOWEVER, once you begin asking people for money you become morally responsible to uphold your part of the bargain and, pardon me if I'm wrong, leading my example would be mandatory, yes?
What does she do with the money given to her ministry? How much goes out to keep the infrastructure, advertising and her own lifestyle up? I ask the same of any religious person or organization. If they are honest and ethical, there should be no issue.

On the other hand, some will dislike her merely because she preaches and does not hold the proper degrees to teach. Others take issue with the religious belief itself. Not all religious people are guillable fools. I recently saw an article detailing a possible genetic disposition towards religious belief. Let's not be guilty of the same thing we criticize "the other side" for doing...judging out of hand based on personal prejudices. I don't particularly like televangelists, but hey...ya gotta make a living somehow.

My issue with Ms. Scott, and others like her...and for that matter most organized religions is this: they get special treatment compared to other businesses: that's right, I said I consider religious organizations a business. They take in money for a service. Any other shopkeeper has to account for that money and its use. Why don't religious organizations do the same? Any thoughts?

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When you read the responses of a number of major Televangelists to calls for financial disclosure, the language is pretty boilerplate. They always dismiss any accusations of self enrichment, and then quickly jump to the point that they are protecting religious freedom by keeping government out of the books and financial dealings of churches. They make it sound like a noble thing they're doing to save freedom of religion.

I guess I don't have a huge problem with religious leaders making huge incomes- as long as their donors are giving with open eyes. It's the donor's money to spend on whatever they might want to. But when the cash flow is hidden and unaccountable, and the line between personal spending and church spending is hidden, that's where a big problem emerges and must be addressed. Generically saying that donations are spent "for the work of the church" is pretty wide open to one's most advantageous interpretation.

If you're the head of a major corporation, and you live in a mansion owned by the corporation, and use other corporate assets for your personal lifestyle, that's generally subject to taxation as compensation for your job. Even priests and ministers have to file income tax returns for their personal income. It makes sense that if a minister is living a lavish lifestyle funded by the donations of their flock, and the business activities of their church, they should have to account for the cash value of the assets they enjoy and consume like any other executive of an organization, nonprofit or otherwise. Granted, I do believe that corporate types and millionaires routinely fudge on the many freebies they get from their companies, but at least they are subject to get caught if they lie blatantly enough, or get caught with their hand in the company till.

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Hello Again,

I have now been watching Mrs. Scott's teaching for a month. It breaks my heart that I hear alot on this board about her past, and now the topic of money. What about her message? Yes I have seen at the end of her message, at least once a week there is an excerpt of a message she did on Giving. It is the same each time. See I do understand the need for the request for donations as it is a Paid Program that I watch at 1:00am every night. I am sure that TV time does not come cheap.

Let me tell you this, I am first on the list that gets very upset with TV preachers begging for money, or offering books, tapes, pieces of annoited cloth and the such for a donation. That is total crap to me. I also don't believe that we should pay a teacher. I teach free of charge always with the knowledge that what I teach will be passed on, that is my reward. However, in a situation like Mrs. Scotts. There are expenses in what she is doing with getting her message out.

If someone were to prove to me that she is living in a huge mansion with the fancy cars and all that, yes that would upset me. But somehow I can't see her doing that. With what she teaches, she has to be working many hours. Not much time for playing there. I am pretty sure that if she was in this for the money, she would not be teaching Gods word. Pretty sure there is more fun and money in what she was doing in her past.

See you cannot fake the emotions she has in giving her messages. Her walk has not been easy I can bet. Her cross is not light either. Heck look at the obsticule she has in getting up there to preach with what her past was.

Keep in mind, Judge Not, Lest ye be Judged!

I can say that Mrs. Scott is an annoited Child of God. There is NO WAY she could or would be giving the messages that she gives without being Annoited!

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"If someone were to prove to me that she is living in a huge mansion with the fancy cars and all that, yes that would upset me. But somehow I can't see her doing that. With what she teaches, she has to be working many hours. Not much time for playing there. I am pretty sure that if she was in this for the money, she would not be teaching Gods word. Pretty sure there is more fun and money in what she was doing in her past."

I doubt anyone will be able to prove that to you, Tina. It is well documented that her late husband Gene Scott owned a number of ranches, a television station, and numerous other high value assets. Like most televangelists, Melissa Scott refuses to release any information on her ministry's income or property holdings.

We can only guess at what kind of income Melissa Scott enjoys. One of her peers, Paul Crouch of TBN Ministries, have documented income of at least $190 million per year and own approximately $700 million in various assets, mansions, aircraft and an amusement park.

By comparison, porn stars (and there is little evidence that Melissa Scott had a very well known career as one, considering photos of her are few and rare) do not get paid well as a rule and generally have very short careers that eventually turn into the strip club and call girl circuit as the performers age and get lost in drugs, change their names, or otherwise disappear.

There's a lot more money in being a TV minister, and it lasts a lot longer too. Not having to pay taxes on the wealth you enjoy (all held in the name of the church) is a pretty nice perk too!

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Hello again, Well I don't know about her income or lifestyle. I do know that her message is sound. She gets to the point and gives a message that is not leading in the wrong direction or filled with frills and such. She is not promising people that if they walk with jesus that they will become rich beyond measure which is a huge untruth in most churches today. So with all that I will not judge her on anything but the message of Truth that she puts forth.

We live in a crazy world filled with get rich quick schemes. Lets just hope that if she is getting all that money that she is very good at giving to the needy. She can't take it with her, nor can anyone else for that matter. But it can hold a person back!

My Moto is "Live Free, Live Poor!"

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In researching Pastor Melissa Scott to determine her position on the Doctrines of Christian Faith I found so much material other than what I was looking for regarding this the matter. So many people with twisted thoughts and ideas; I am not amazed at the lack of wisdom and the egotistical moronic attitude some people have, this include those with PhDsí (or candidates for) and any other Ďadvancedí degree! Because Godís Word is clear, without the cross you lack true wisdom, 1Corinthians 1: 17-25!
I am by definition a fundamental Judaic-Christian. I served as a Pastor /Missionary, and hospital Chaplain for over 23 years with a GED, a BMin (Bachelor of Ministries), a lot of Prayer, Bible study, and seeking the Wisdom of others who knew True Wisdom.
I know what it is like to live in a fish Bowl and have those who thought they knew what was right criticize and demand perfection of me. Due to that experience I can certainly understand why Pastor Melissa Scott and any other Ministers (more so if your ministry is very public) remain guarded. I live and act believing Salvation comes through Faith; believing in Jesus the Christ as Gods only begotten Son-John 3:16. I base this and all I believe on the fact that the Bible in its original text is the inerrant word of God. God the Holy Sprit guided men through the Canonization process to choose only the truly God breathed words to be the Holy Bible. I further believe that the King James 1611, (4th revision, the one most everyone has; many know it as the Scofield, or Thompson study Bibles), the New King James version, and the New American Standard version (Also available with Scofields notes ) are the most correct version, after that the NIV is perhaps most accurate in todayís standard English. I am troubled that the New King James, New American Standard, and NIV are all copywrited and technically you are suppose to get the copywriters permission to use it for any purpose than personal reading, just like music (this is why the KJV can be bought for as little as $6 or copied as you wish). With that said let me move on.
I just started watching Pastor Scott and I have yet see her teach anything inappropriately. I have investigated the issue of a woman Pastor as per 1 Timothy chapters 2 and 3. I have followed the principals of exegetical and hermeneutic study and I believe God wants men to take a stand and be leaders (this is where Adam failed). Men should be the Pastor, Bishop, and Elder over a congregation. If there are no qualified men then an exception would be allowed until a qualified and CALLED man is available. This is not a sexist comment it is what I believe to be a fact of GODís WORD! Perhaps this is the case; she has yet to speak on this matter when I have watched. Now, if Pastor Scott feels differently and her congregation follows her that is their choice! Jesus told the Disciples, Peter and Paul were told by God, to pen the comment; if they do things differently, ok that is their choice as long as the true gospel is being taught; Salvation is only through Jesus the Christ! Ms Scott calling herself a Pastor is not my problem. It is hers and those who are members of that Church. If they are Ok with it and accept that is their business. I also understand that women have insight on matters that we as men seem to lack full understanding of; Pastor Scott seems to have a fantastic handle on this and a strong command of God's Word. Iím not familiar with her husband, his teaching or his life style that you criticize; fact is he is gone and I wonít judge anything on him that is past history! I know that since watching her, every message she has taught has been 100% accurate and on target! In fact her messages have been a great source of comfort and strength for me. I am facing some issues that require extra prayer, faith and study. Her messages about giants in our lives, being faithful to God, turmoil, tribulations in our lives is just part of the journey; so maintain your faith in God, heed the Holy Sprit, all made possible because of Jesus the Christ! The past is under the Blood, forgiven and forgotten; something many people need to wake up too!
I read complaints about her being a porn actress/ model, that she isnít educated, or at least only has a high school diploma, she fakes what she knows about language, because the boards a prewritten prior to the service. Some add critical remarks about her accent and how it changes depending on what she is sharing; oh how pathetic! If past sin were disqualifying criteria for being a Called Servant of God, many Ministers, including myself, would have to quit! This is part of that fish bowl affect Ministers too often experience, but shouldnít! If God calls you out, and you accept; you are redeemed, past is wash away and the future is sealed by the Holy Sprit! Comments are made about how she looks; and yes she is attractive lady, but I have only seen her in a Ministers habit, black trousers, black jacket and pastorís shirt with collar. She is defiantly trying to be modest and present herself as a Pastor, a Minister! Listen to Pastor Scottís lesson on Eph 3:14-21, so bury Pastors Scottís past were it belongs, God has!
Many criticize her age difference to Pastor Gene Scott and his reason for marring Pastor Melissa. I say, ĎSo what!í that is between Pastor Gene, Melissa and God! Perhaps God understood their intellect, ability to teach each other and other capabilities we donít see. As to her education, Iím not hung up about it, if she was taught by Pastor Gene with self study or a major university it doesnít matter! Look how Jesus taught the Apostles and Disciples, at His feet when they gathered together; no university or seminary; no degree (accept Paul)! Can you imagine, today they would be written off as useless, uneducated know it alls! In fact the nonbelievers did criticize them and Jesus, time hasnít really changed this method of attacking Godís Servants!
The criticism about the white board and her accent is ridiculous! It is a smart move to have everything prewritten, it saves time! I have seen her add or subtract words on the Ďflyí, add the accent for genuine affect and you have a perfect score! I couldnít believe any one with an education would criticize her accent change! I worked with linguist, civilians and military; all agreed mastering the language includes the accent. From what Iíve observed she has exhalent command of the language she uses.
Pastor Scottís comments on giving follow scripture, it is my choice if I wish to give. It is only right to pay for services received. Jesus, His Apostils and disciples, all lived with this instruction. Go and teach, if they accept the will care for you. If you are part of the group you should give something, the Jews gave a minimum of a tithe-at least 10% but most did much more, so give as God leads. This is what I have heard, and understand what Kings House and giving of offerings is all about. Again this is a personnel choice, if you donít agree, donít give or you could move on if it is a problem for you.
Bottom line is some non-believers who donít know what they are talking about add nasty comments, dredging up Pastor Scottís past (if indeed that is her) all to discredit her! They would do well to forget it, and leave her alone and focus on thier own vessel!
On more than one occasion I am reminded of Christ words; prior to removing the splinter in my eye, first remove the toothpick out of your eye.

Also, consider what Jesus instructed in Matthew; we are first go to the offender and express your disappointment one on one. If he rejects and continues offending, go again and take a fellow believer and the two of you express the need for him to stop offending. If that fails then you go to the Church body and demand he change his offensive ways, if he refuses then tell him to leave and have no more to do with him until he repents Problems need to be handeled in the Church with it's membership, because outsiders don't usally understand and it only hurts and tears down when we should be lifting up!
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Who could argue about Pastor Scott's language after this exhalent endorsement?

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I base this and all I believe on the fact that the Bible in its original text is the inerrant word of God. God the Holy Sprit guided men through the Canonization process to choose only the truly God breathed words to be the Holy Bible. I further believe that the King James 1611, (4th revision, the one most everyone has; many know it as the Scofield, or Thompson study Bibles), the New King James version, and the New American Standard version (Also available with Scofields notes ) are the most correct version, after that the NIV is perhaps most accurate in todayís standard English.


So there really ARE witches? (Ex 22:18: "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.") If that's your god's commandment to you, are you hunting down and killing witches? Are the Wiccans in your neighborhood nervous?

Why'd you drop out of high school? How come nobody taught you that a "fact" has to be true to be a fact? Or did people try and you just couldn't wrap your head around it?


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It would figure you would be one who would be arrogant in your response. I was saying from what I observed and what I have learned about learning a language she appears to have a command of the languages I have seen her use. Hum, perhaps a PHD doesnít always make you smart.
It is obvious that you donít understand the concept ĎUnder Graceí! You also donít understand how to study the Godís Word in a proper context. Perhaps you even lack the Holy Sprit to guide you and give you discernment. Taking scripture out of context is not the way to prove a point.
As to me dropping out of High School; there were many factors in my decision to do that, the biggest was my Mothers death and the other being I was enlisting in the Navy. I am a where of what a fact is and its place in our world. I am also a where of Faith and its place in our lives and many times Faith overrides fact, yet it determines what real fact is.
The issue here is the overall context of what I said, and a few others have said, that is if you donít like Pastor Scott donít listen to her! To criticize shows your lack of understanding as a Christian should and your lack of Christian love. I stand by what I have written, because of Godís love through Jesus the Christ!


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http://www.gonsalves.org/favorite/scott/scott.htm

In depth examination of the late Dr Gene Scott shows a wildly successful televangelist empire run by a man who was artful in keeping would-be investigators out of his church's business and his financial accumulations. A particularly interesting touch was his inclusion on donation slips of a statement that Scott could spend donations in any manner he chose, thus making it impossible for him to be charged with fraud or misappropriation of church monies. Additionally, he arranged for his salary to be $1 per year, PLUS UNLIMITED EXPENSES. In most people's terms, that adds up to an UNLIMITED SALARY.

Pastor Melissa Scott learned her lessons well from her late elderly husband. She preaches the same tithing philosophy, and the same "first fruits" donation messages he did. If she inherited his entire empire and properties, and is being compensated in the same UNLIMITED manner he did, she likely has little problem living on the estimated $1 million per month that his ministry generated in donations.

One seriously doubts that this attractive young woman is spending that money and enjoying that luxury all by herself, but other than speculation about romantic connections to other televangelist royalty, little is known about her current personal life.

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Just amazing! Tabloid Journalism at itís finest? The ramblings of a Underground journalist, or is this a blatant abuse by a jealous Pharisee?
The only tithing method I have heard Pastor Melissa speak of is the Kings House plan. Any one who has attended Sunday School for a few summers knows the principles of tithing. It was commanded of the Jews by God to take at least 10% of the first crop, first thing with your pay is to take at least 10% off the top for an offering to God. Note at least 10% was commanded of God, beyond that was a free will giving. Most Jews gave an additional 15-20 %! The purpose was to make sure the Levites; the Priest had a means of maintaining their life. They didnít raise crops, they did raise animals, and they didnít hunt; their profession was working in Gods House, serving God. Gods plan was for the congregation to give first fruits so the Priest had a means to live on. God continued this plan for Christians; the New Testament teaches and gives examples of this through out the 27 books.
One of the biggest examples that most people miss is at the Sermon of the Mount. The story is of boy who brought 5 loaves of bread and 2 fish, to the crowd with the purpose to sell and then take the money home to his family. Many think this was his lunch, however understanding, the culture, and history of the day we realize this was too much food for a boyís lunch. He was there to sell it. So for him to surrender the means of a monthly income took faith, a lot of Faith. The income from selling this food could help him and his mother live for at least a month! When ask to give the food so others could eat, he willingly do so, as Christ continues teach and all fellowship. The food is blessed and shared among the 5,000 men plus 4,000 +/- women, who knows how many children. When everyone had their fill 12 baskets of fragments were gathered up. This blessed food kept this boy and his mother fed for at least a year! Offering of first fruit was and continues today as part of Gods plan for taking care of those who serve Him.
In the Christian Church the debate is not how much, but to whom it is to be paid. Some believe the local Church; others feel it is whom they worship with. Some tithe to the local Church and give offerings to who they feel God directs. I could go on and share with you the principal of Faith Promise giving as outlined in the Corinthian letters, but I wonít my point is made. If you want to learn to fly you pay a flight instructor to teach you, to learn to cook you hire a chef, and so on; in these relationships you agree to pay a set amount for services rendered. Now you donít know how many other students your instructor has and you donít know their income; ask and most will tell you to mind your business! Why should it be different for a pastor? God said you will give 10% of first fruit (gross income), people who feel blessed give more. Why donít you revile your income and itís source? Our Military and government workers all have open book pay scales do you demand their pay vouchers and tax records? What about college professors who make $160,000 a yea, and the Dean of students who makes $185,000 and then the college demands a 12% tuition increase! How much does the local high school teacher earn? What of the School Board superintendent? They all say the schools are broke, have you demanded their tax records? Why not be fair about this whole matter, or is it just too much fun attacking something you know so little about? Bottom line, if you are feed by the cook you need to pay them!
Great opinionated comet as to Pastor Melissa free time activities! (sic) What if she spent her time studying, giving her money to charities and praying? You made a wild guess to suit your agenda, so why not think the positive? Just because she is attractive doesnít mean she Ďpartiesí with other men. I lived in that fish bowl, everything judged, and many times taken out of context and back by misinterpretation of Godís Word! That is what you seem to enjoy doing. I think I count 15 different blogs or forums were you blasted or tore down something because you didnít agree. If you donít agree, ok fine state your disagreement, but why tear down someone you donít know, except through gossip and conjecture?

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"Our Military and government workers all have open book pay scales do you demand their pay vouchers and tax records? What about college professors who make $160,000 a yea, and the Dean of students who makes $185,000 and then the college demands a 12% tuition increase! How much does the local high school teacher earn? What of the School Board superintendent? They all say the schools are broke, have you demanded their tax records? Why not be fair about this whole matter, or is it just too much fun attacking something you know so little about?"

You're quite right, Purpleboss. The pay scales for all of those public employees you mentioned are public information. In addition, if they go beyond those public salaries, and start spending the money of the organization on themselves, THEY GO TO JAIL. But because of the clever efforts of Melissa Scott, The Crouches, Mac Hammond and other televangelists who hide behind the tax exempt religious organization clauses of the IRS code, these people are able to live like kings and queens, sleeping in castles, flying private jets, and otherwise laughing into their sleeves while poor people continue to send them checks in hope of being similarly favored by God.

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. . . reconciles the biblical passage about it being easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to get into heaven, with the lifestyles of prosperity preachers. I'm betting they don't bring up that passage much.

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My advise to those that are making accusations against Melissa Scott, better understand the seriousness of their words, whether verbal or written, because they will be held accountable to a much higher Judge than themselves in their future! I seek my salvation with fear and trembling and I've learned to work on my own problems rather than dragging others down to my level! Yahweh will take care of judgment in His timing! If Melissa did do any of the things that she has been accused of and has repented of them, then she's forgiven and Yahweh gets the glory! efrayim

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I just read through this thread today and almost wet myself with laughter.

Threats of judgment by a god or gods only work on those who believe in a god or gods.

All I heard was: "I don't like what you're saying about somebody but rather than explain why I think you're wrong (which I can't, apparently), I'm going to threaten you with the supposed wrath of this supposed being who will send you to a supposed place called Hell."

I grew up under the cloud of religious indoctrination, and last time I checked the only "person" who can decide who does or doesn't go to Hell is "God" "him"self.

So, if you have nothing more to contribute other than to say that those who criticize Melissa Scott will potentially be damned to Hell, I pity you.

Deep, deep pity.

In fact, I would conjecture that you've lost your way.

Sad. Rolling Eyes

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If you read what I said again, you'll notice that I didn't say a word about hell or damnation! I think you show your own religious indoctrination by your reaction to what I wrote. I myself have little desire to go to organized church or spend time with religious people, maybe for similar reasons as you! But I do revere the Bible, especially from a Hebrew perspective! If you simply read it again, you should see more compassion in what I said, rather than judgment! As far as what you said about Melissa, I don't care what you said about her! I was showing more concern for you than her. Whether you believe in Yahweh or not is between you and Him, not me! Now, if you want an explanation for why I think you're wrong about your comments about Melissa, I'll say this: Have you seen with your own eyes anything that you've accused her of? Can you "in a court of law" prove a case against her for any of your judgments toward her? If you can't, then you could be baring false witness, which can be very serious. My last thought is: thanks for showing concern for me as to if I've lost my way and having pity on me! The older I get, the more I realize I've got much to learn and much to improve! Thanks for taking your time to share with me! Blessings through Yahshua, efrayim

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Pastor Melissa Scott.........unbielvable!
The Holy Ghost is Doing an amazing work in her... and through her.
Laughing

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Is it me, or has this thread just turned into the equivalent of religious spam?

Propoganda, bulls**t. Potato, potato.

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nomnnice wrote:
Is it me, or has this thread just turned into the equivalent of religious spam?

Propoganda, bulls**t. Potato, potato.


This.

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Religious spam? Potato, potato? Propaganda, bulls**t? You have an interesting way of expressing yourself! I have to wonder what has happened in your life to make you so skeptical about other people and their beliefs. I know that there is a lot of hypocrisy and bad people that are involved in religion, but there are good, well meaning, God fearing people too! Like I said before, I don't go to church anymore, but I respect some people who do! I've found that anyone who searches for truth does so through peace and love. The Bible is the best source for that and; of course, the way to live through the example of Yahshua Himself! I hope you find that peace someday!

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That's all well and good, efrayim. If a person believes in God and in the spellbook better known as "The Bible".

Which I do not.

I don't believe one should have to look to a book or an ethereal being to find peace. I believe peace can be found within oneself.

It's called taking responsibility for one's own actions.

Furthermore, you're from where? Nebraska? We have people here now from Florida, Texas, Michigan, etc. This is called the Minneapolis Finder Forum. I don't moderate this forum, nor would I suggest that it shouldn't be open to all. However, this appears to be the only thread on which you have commented, so I can't help but think that the only reason you're here - and the others from outside Minnesota - is to defend this "pastor", Melissa Scott.

Which, in my opinion, is just as silly as the Mormon who approached me while I was pumping gas into the car. I don't believe in religion anymore, but when I was a child, I was taught that religion was personal. Stop trying to project your beliefs onto others.

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First off, how can anyone not believe in a creator? (God)? Do you really believe that the existence of everything just evolved from some kind of muddy soup billions of years ago by chance? That's what your statement tells me that you believe! As far as the spellbook you mentioned, The only part of it that I believe is actually pure Yahweh's Word is the Torah.(In Hebrew). The rest of it is actually commentary on IT! If you read the rest of the spellbook; as you refer to it as, if you learn from it from the Hebrew prospective it all makes perfect sense and there are no discrepancies! You sound like a very intelligent person, so I'm surprised you aren't telling me what I'm saying to you! There are lots of books to read that aren't from the Bible that point to the same conclusion, so I think you're closing your mind to other sources way too quickly! Over time I've found plenty of peace within myself; which is a gift from The Almighty! Ive found it while fishing, backpacking for a month by myself in the Sierra Nevada's, watching a child birth, watching birds fly, catching a marlin in Baja, surviving numerous accidents without injury, even operating heavy equipment on construction sites and looking at the technology that mankind has invented! We are supernatural beings that are both physical and spiritual that have to be designed rather than just happen! I do agree with you about being responsible for our own actions! Absolutely! I hope you see now that this is about a lot more than just Melissa Scott! I'm new to running the computer, so I googled in Melissa Scott and it brought me to this site. I didn't seek it out! In response to your comment, I'm not trying to project my beliefs onto others any more or less than you are! I thought these forums were for communicating with others! Is that wrong for each person to have different opinions on things? I hope you want to learn things from me just like I hope I learn from you! Blessings!

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To those of you without sin......as Christ said......

You who are without sin cast the first stone.

How many cast even one stone after He spoke those words?

No matter your past, or the past of others are we not all able to be redeemed?

If not, then what hope is there?

No matter who you are, what you are or what you hope to be; what right, privilege or authority do you have to judge anyone? None! None, I say and so says the scripture, the gospel of Jesus Christ.

The law of Moses was confirmed with Christ being nailed to the cross, no, even before. He came to confirm we could not attain to the law of Moses, the 633 laws of Moses. Man cannot even attain the 10 we hold so dear.

Christ was born, was persecuted and murdered by man so that His blood, his sacrifice would redeem us.

You are peasants in a potters field, blind to even your own purpose, blind to what purpose He has for you, blind to the fact that He knew you before you were born on this world, in this corporeal body.

Judge as you will.........but remember.........He knows you as he knew you before you were of this world and He will place you where you are deserved to be when His time has come.

The Lord God of our Fathers rebuke you.

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Random aside.

The story where Jesus said "let he who is without sin cast the first stone," was added to the Bible by an English king who wanted to be able to justify his divorce.

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Although I have only started my research of your statement I have not found any reference to an english king having inserted that into the text.

However I have found that it was not in the original texts dating as far back as the 2nd century, which was surprizing to me. It is true we learn something new everyday.

If you have a source of your information perhaps you could share it. I'd be interested in reading any further information.

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Whoops. Might've been mistaken on that one. There was one passage that had been added for such a purpose and I always remembered it to be that one. With so many stories coming and going from the Bible, it's really hard to keep them straight.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pericope_Adulter%C3%A6

There's the Wiki article on the subject at hand though. Apparently the adulterer gets an honorable mention in the 4th century.

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efrayim wrote:
Do you really believe that the existence of everything just evolved from some kind of muddy soup billions of years ago by chance?


Yes, yes I do.

Tell me, efrayim: why did it snow yesterday? (Just to fill you in, since you don't live in Minneapolis, it snowed here yesterday.)

Did God make it snow?

Or did the pressure system combine with moisture?

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easton wrote:
No matter who you are, what you are or what you hope to be; what right, privilege or authority do you have to judge anyone? None! None, I say and so says the scripture, the gospel of Jesus Christ.


So, I assume you're cool with gay marriage, then, right?

Sounds like - if you're not - Jesus would tell you to shut up and mind your own business.

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If Melissa did do any of the things that she has been accused of and has repented of them, then she's forgiven and Yahweh gets the glory!


A Catholic nutjob recently told me the meaning of life was to know and love his god. Seems his god (and yours) is an attention whore glory hound. How pitiful do you have to be to create people to love you? The only thing funnier than people believing they have an invisible friend is the assertion that the undeluded should also believe in it.

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A new video on YouTube accuses Pastor Melissa Scott of arranging for all critical postings and videos about her to be removed from the Internet.

For real? Spoof? You tell me.

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http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Wolves/gene_scott.htm

David J. Stewart says that women are forbidden from preaching the Gospel, and thus Melissa Scott and churches that ordain women are apostates.

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thrice wrote:
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Wolves/gene_scott.htm

David J. Stewart says that women are forbidden from preaching the Gospel, and thus Melissa Scott and churches that ordain women are apostates.


Hoorah! Patriarchy is alive and well in the Church!

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YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!!!!

It was just brought to my attention researched and discovered that this so-called Pastor and reformed porn star has been recently dating none other than a porn star. This adulteress jezebel has been seeing a a man who has been up on yahoo groups since 2006 in the category of porn star with 100 links to all manner of abominable porn, home videos, B Productions, you name it. When confronted recently with the knowledge of this, he took the site down.

The Harlot Melissa went so far as to brag about her conquest on television by winking to those in the know while she sang ďhe touched me, oh, he touched me.Ē If you watch her streaming live video youíll see it for yourself. She has even confessed it in her sermon Godís Promises that can be found by clicking into the illustration of her on google images with this sermon title.

The scariest thing of all is that the entire Trinity Broadcast Network knows about this as Melissa has been pandering to their lusts (pride of life, lust of the eyes) with her God awful pictures on Glamour Fantasy and bragging about her conquest. They have been extolling this intrigue, adultery and harlotry as they have personal connection and association with this male model/porn star who is knowingly caught up in all manner of filth. It has been brought to their attention over and over and they defiantly refuse to condemn this behavior because he is one of their own now. What has the kingdom come to that such high standing people of God would resort to this and allow this to run rampant in the kingdom unchecked. They have no business preaching the word pretending to be with God, standing on the side of the evil one.

She also refers to the matter in her recent messages, this week of 2/07/09 by saying she is troubled about what may be coming because she slipped back into the flesh (by having an affair with a married porn star/playgirl model who has a film entitled Hunks in Hedonism.) Good looking guy but a complete unsaved dufus. Duh! What was she thinking? Her thoughts must have been someplace else.

My question is...if she is a reformed porn star and now pastor since 2000, who made the videos on BarbiBridgesvod.com that are in the name of Barbie Bridges Entertainment in 2003. If these are not hers they clearly represent the littany of porn she produced with her first husband, including ones with teenagers.

To fall back into this type of behavior is absolutely absurd? She must have taken a look at the heathen, couldnít resist his loins and jumped right on it. Not surprising since she was also a paid pony girl for her husband Eugene Scott back in the day that led to their divorces and her subsequent taking over of his evil empire.

With all those brains youíd think she could have done better than this??? What a shame!!!

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